In this episode, Josh McElwee checks in from the Vatican, where the Council of Cardinals have ended a recent meeting. Josh shares what the cardinals discussed and talks about the consistory taking place later this month. Heidi Schlumpf shares some interviews with theologians who attended the annual meeting of the Catholic Theological Society of America in Albuquerque June 8-11. They talk about what it means to be a theologian in a time of Trump. Brittany talks to Young Voices columnists Mike Jordan Laskey and Christian Mocek about fatherhood and faith.